romo ran on was -- romney ran on was the republican platform. now they bring it back as if there was no election. >> neil: do you think the budget submitted by senator patty murray, which doesn't approach balance and increases spending and increases taxes, is what the american people voted for back in november? is that what they voted for? >> do you know there's no one that challenges that america's on the road to recovery. if you think for one minute just saying that you are cutting spending, that doesn't mean that you are cutting savings. it doesn't mean you're not -- more money. >> neil: even under the -- we're cutting the growth. are you saying -- >> you're talking about -- jo congressman, yes or no, do you think cutting spending should be a goal? yes or no. >> should i think cutting -- yes, it's how you cut it, of course. everybody believes in cutting. >> neil: what would you cut? >> there's so much money that's already been cut. if we had the obama law, things were cut there. ryan knows it, because he took out the savings we had in the pre